Saeed bin Jubair says: Sayyiduna Abdullah bin Umar (may Allah be pleased with them both) came to us. We expected that he would narrate to us a hadith of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) or tell us something good. One of us, a man named Hakam, hastened and said: O Abu Abdur Rahman! What do you say about fighting during the days of tribulation (fitnah)? He said: May your mother lose you! Do you know what fitnah is? Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) used to fight against the polytheists; at that time, joining the group of the polytheists or entering their religion was fitnah. That fighting was not like your fighting, which is fought for the sake of gaining power.