Hazrat Ghailan bin Jarir says that I and Hazrat Hakam bin al-Darim were present when a person came to us and said: I had placed my hand on a part of my wife and I became in a state of janabah (ritual impurity). We said, we do not know anything about this; let us go to our Hazrat Saad Ali (may Allah be pleased with him) bin Abdullah al-Bariqi. Then we went to him and inquired about it. He said, I do not know anything about this. Meanwhile, we saw Hazrat Jabir bin Zaid, so I said, this is Abu al-Sha’tha, go to him and ask him, then also inform us. That person went to him and asked him, then he came back to us with signs of happiness on his face, and said, he has told me to keep it concealed. Thus, we think that he has instructed him to perform dam (expiation).