المستدرك على الصحيحين
Al Mustadrak ala al‑Sahihayn
كتاب الأدب
Book of Manners
فضل تأديب الأولاد:
The virtue of disciplining children
Hadith Number: 7872
حدثنا ابو العباس محمد بن يعقوب الاموي، حدثنا ابو الحسن محمد بن سنان القزاز، حدثنا عامر بن صالح بن رستم الخزاز، حدثنا ايوب بن موسى بن عمرو بن سعيد بن العاص، عن ابيه، عن جده قال: قال رسول الله ﷺ:"ما نحل والد ولده افضل من ادب حسن (1).
هذا حديث صحيح الإسناد، ولم يخرجاه.
[التعليق - من تلخيص الذهبي] ترقيم العلميه 7679 - بل مرسل ضعيف
هذا حديث صحيح الإسناد، ولم يخرجاه.
[التعليق - من تلخيص الذهبي] ترقيم العلميه 7679 - بل مرسل ضعيف
Ayyub bin Musa bin Amr bin Sa'id bin al-As narrates from his father, from his grandfather, that the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said: "No father has given his child a gift better than good manners and conduct."
This hadith has a sahih (authentic) chain of narration, but the two Shaykhs (Bukhari and Muslim) did not record it.
تخریج الحدیث: «إسناده ضعيف، بمرّة من أجل عامر بن صالح بن رستم وموسى والد أيوب مجهول، وعمرو بن سعيد بن العاص جدُّ أيوب» [ترقيم الرساله 7872] [ترقيم الشركة 7778] [ترقيم العلميه 7679]
Takhrij and Tahqiq of Hadith No. 7872 of Al Mustadrak ala al‑Sahihayn
by Shaykh Adil Murshid, Dr. Ahmad Barhoum, Dr. Muhammad Kamil Qarah Balli and Dr. Sa'id al-Lahham
Hadith-science notes and terminology
by Shaykh Adil Murshid, Dr. Ahmad Barhoum, Dr. Muhammad Kamil Qarah Balli and Dr. Sa'id al-Lahham
Hadith-science notes and terminology
Grading: Its chain is severely weak.
Technical note / Defect ('illah): The reasons for its weakness are the weakness of 'Amir bin Salih bin Rustam, and that Musa, the father of Ayyub, is "majhul" (unknown). Furthermore, the narration of Ayyub's grandfather 'Amr bin Sa'id bin al-'As (who is known as "al-Ashdaq") from the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) is "mursal", because according to Imam al-Bukhari (al-Tarikh al-Kabir 1/ 422) and Imam al-Tirmidhi his hearing from the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) is not established; and he is not the 'Amr bin Sa'id who was a Companion.
Note / Clarification: On the basis of these two defects, Imam al-Dhahabi called it "mursal da'if" in "al-Talkhis" and declared 'Amir bin Salih al-Khazzaz "wahin" (very weak).
Technical note / Defect ('illah): The reasons for its weakness are the weakness of 'Amir bin Salih bin Rustam, and that Musa, the father of Ayyub, is "majhul" (unknown). Furthermore, the narration of Ayyub's grandfather 'Amr bin Sa'id bin al-'As (who is known as "al-Ashdaq") from the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) is "mursal", because according to Imam al-Bukhari (al-Tarikh al-Kabir 1/ 422) and Imam al-Tirmidhi his hearing from the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) is not established; and he is not the 'Amr bin Sa'id who was a Companion.
Note / Clarification: On the basis of these two defects, Imam al-Dhahabi called it "mursal da'if" in "al-Talkhis" and declared 'Amir bin Salih al-Khazzaz "wahin" (very weak).
(1) إسناده ضعيف بمرّة من أجل عامر بن صالح بن رستم وموسى والد أيوب مجهول، وعمرو بن سعيد بن العاص جدُّ أيوب - وهو المعروف بالأشدق - روايته عن النَّبِيّ ﷺ مرسلة، لم يصح له سماع من النَّبِيّ ﷺ كما قال البخاري في "التاريخ الكبير" 1/ 422، وكذا قال الترمذي، وليس هو بعَمرو بن سعيد بن العاص الصحابي. وبهاتين العلَّتين أعلّه الذهبي في "التلخيص" فقال: مرسل ضعيف في إسناده عامر بن صالح الخزاز واهٍ.
Reference / Source: It was narrated by Imam Ahmad (24/ 15403/ 1), al-Tirmidhi (1952) and 'Abd Allah bin Ahmad in "Zawa'id al-Musnad" (15403/ 2, 16710, 16717) through various routes from 'Amir bin Salih.
Grading: Imam al-Tirmidhi says that it is "gharib" and we know it only from the narration of 'Amir bin Abi 'Amir al-Khazzaz ('Amir bin Salih bin Rustam), and in my view it is "mursal".
Grading: Imam al-Tirmidhi says that it is "gharib" and we know it only from the narration of 'Amir bin Abi 'Amir al-Khazzaz ('Amir bin Salih bin Rustam), and in my view it is "mursal".
وأخرجه أحمد 24/ (15403/ 1)، والترمذي (1952)، وعبد الله بن أحمد في زوائده على "المسند" 24/ (15403/ 2) و (27/ 16710) و (16717) من طرق عن عامر بن صالح بهذا الإسناد. وقال الترمذي: غريب لا نعرفه إلّا من حديث عامر بن أبي عامر الخزاز، وهو عامر بن صالح بن رستم الخزاز … وهذا عندي مرسل.
Reference / Source: Imam al-Tabarani in "al-Kabir" (13234) and "al-Awsat" (3658), and Ibn 'Adi in "al-Kamil" (6/ 211), transmitted this narration as marfu' through the route of Muhammad bin Musa al-Sa'di, from 'Amr bin Dinar (the steward of the family of al-Zubayr), from Salim, from Ibn 'Umar (may Allah be pleased with him): "No father has given his child an inheritance better than good manners."
Technical note / Defect ('illah): Ibn 'Adi declared it defective because of Muhammad al-Sa'di and called him "munkar al-hadith". Moreover, there is agreement on the weakness of his shaykh 'Amr (the steward of the family of al-Zubayr).
Technical note / Defect ('illah): Ibn 'Adi declared it defective because of Muhammad al-Sa'di and called him "munkar al-hadith". Moreover, there is agreement on the weakness of his shaykh 'Amr (the steward of the family of al-Zubayr).
وأخرج الطبراني في "الكبير" (13234)، وفي "الأوسط" (3658)، وابن عدي في "الكامل" 6/ 211 من طريق محمد بن موسى السعدي، عن عمرو بن دينار قهرمان آل الزبير، عن سالم بن عبد الله بن عمر، عن أبيه مرفوعًا: "ما ورّث والد ولدًا خيرًا من أدب حسن". وأعلّه ابن عدي بمحمد السعدي ونعته بمنكر الحديث، وقال: وهذا أيضًا بهذا الإسناد منكر. قلنا: وشيخه عمرو قهرمان آل الزبير متفق على ضعفه.
Corroborating chains and supporting reports: Imam al-'Uqayli in "al-Du'afa'" (1772) transmitted a similar narration from Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) through the route of Mahdi bin Hilal, from Hisham bin Hassan, from Ibn Sirin.
Technical note / Defect ('illah): Mahdi bin Hilal was called a "kadhdhab" (liar) by several imams, so he cannot be relied upon. Al-'Uqayli says that it is not "mahfuz" (preserved) from the narration of Hisham bin Hassan; rather it is known only from the narration of 'Amir bin Abi 'Amir al-Khazzaz, and this hadith is not established.
Technical note / Defect ('illah): Mahdi bin Hilal was called a "kadhdhab" (liar) by several imams, so he cannot be relied upon. Al-'Uqayli says that it is not "mahfuz" (preserved) from the narration of Hisham bin Hassan; rather it is known only from the narration of 'Amir bin Abi 'Amir al-Khazzaz, and this hadith is not established.
وأخرج نحوه من حديث أبي هريرة العقيلي في "الضعفاء" (1772) من طريق مهدي بن هلال، عن هشام بن حسان، عن ابن سِيرين، عنه. ومهدي بن هلال كذَّبه غير واحد، فلا يُفرح به. وقال العقيلي عقبه: ليس بمحفوظ من حديث هشام بن حسان، وإنما يعرف من حديث عامر بن بن أبي عامر الخزاز، وليس الحديث ثابتًا.