Hazrat Abdur Rahman bin Masood narrates that Hazrat Sahl bin Abu Hathmah came to our gathering and related to us a hadith of the Noble Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) that he (peace and blessings be upon him) said: When you make an estimate, then take it and leave one third; if you do not find one third, then leave one fourth.

Hazrat Basheer bin Yasar narrates that Hazrat Umar Farooq sent Hazrat Abu Khaythama to estimate the dates, and said to him: When you come to the people of the house within their four walls, do not estimate the amount they consume.

Hazrat Jabir narrates that Hazrat Abdullah bin Rawaha estimated the dates of Khaybar to be forty thousand wasq. Hazrat Jabir thought that when Ibn Rawaha gave the Jews the option, they took the dates and twenty thousand wasq became obligatory upon them.

It is narrated from Hazrat Mak'hool that the Noble Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: Be lenient in estimating for the people. Surely, among people's wealth, there are some dates for the needy and some that have fallen, which people trample upon.

It is narrated from Hazrat Saeed bin Musayyib that the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) instructed Hazrat Attab bin Asid to estimate the yield of grapes just as the yield of dates is estimated. Then, the zakat should be paid from raisins, just as the zakat of dates is paid from dried dates. This was the practice of the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) regarding dates and grapes.

Hazrat Amr bin Dinar says that the estimation will be made for dates and grapes, but the estimation will not be made for grains.

Hazrat Ibn Jurayj says that I asked Hazrat Ata when should the estimation of dates be made? He replied: When they become fit to eat and begin to be eaten.

It is narrated from Hazrat Abdullah bin Fulan that the Noble Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) instructed the estimator in Khaybar to estimate when their dates become ripe and good. Hazrat Ibn Shihab states that the Noble Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) ordered that estimation be done for the people of Khaybar when their first dates ripen.

10872 - He said: Ibn Shihab said: The Prophet صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم ordered that Khaybar be estimated when (it ripened) (1) (2) at the beginning of the dates (3).

Hazrat Ibn Jurayj says that I asked Hazrat Ata: A man has crops, but he owes more debt than his wealth. Then his crops are harvested—on the day the crops are harvested, should he pay the due (zakat)? He replied: For one who owes more debt than his wealth, we do not consider that zakat is due on his livestock and fixed assets. However, on the day his crops are harvested, whatever is due upon him on that day, he should pay.